Tuesday, September 02, 2008

Let The Hate Flow! Thank You, I Think I Shall

I was once again flipping through the novelization of Revenge of the Sith, when this struck me. Through Episodes 2 and 3, Chancellor Palpatine keeps getting more power from the Senate, through things that he's set in motion. That eventually culminates in the Galactic Federation becoming the Galactic Empire, with him as Emperor. Prior to that, the Jedi Council is placed under his control, something they aren't particularly happy about. Publicly, he keeps up this facade of the humble civil servant, merely accepting the responsibilities given to him by the Senate, which helps him portray the Jedis (to Anakin) as a group of anti-democratic oddballs, that are actually enemies of freedom. Anakin, being under considerable stress and not being terribly bright, falls for it.

The thing that it made me think of was Tony Stark being appointed head of SHIELD and the Initiative*. In that scenario, all those heroes who ran around, you know, saving lives without a thought to procedures or any of that crap, are the Jedis, operating as they see fit, out side the boundaries of the government. Through all the death and destruction, Iron Man comes out with significantly more power than he had before the mess began, the whole time insisting that he's merely trying to do the best he can, and that this is the best situation any of them could hope for, and really, this is such a better system than we had before, can't you see that? Heck, Iron Man even went to the trouble of engineering incidents to raise the public's panic, which helped push his agenda forward**.

I think that might make Captain America Mace Windu, which I guess makes those cops and fireman that tackled Cap Anakin? Well, your Average Joe in the Marvel Universe is stupid enough to be Anakin. Or maybe Bucky is Anakin, and Cap was Obi-Wan. No, that doesn't work. Really, all that matters is who plays Luke and gets whoever is Vader to chuck Stark down a pit.

* I think he's in charge of the Initiative. In some books, anyway.

** See his using Norman Osborn to shoot an Atlantean ambassador, pushing the two nations towards war, and accomplishing something. I forget what the purpose was of that, besides scaring people. And once again, I'd like to take a moment to thank Sally Floyd and Ben Urich for not bothering to let the public know about this.

7 comments:

Jason said...

Seriously, get help. The movies were bad enough, but then delving into the novelizations is a whole new depth.

Anyhoo, I'm still kinda convinced that Stark is a Skrull. I mean, just because Reed and his amazing gun gave him a clean bill o' health doesn't really mean anything. Then again, odds are the deus ex machina of this whole cluster-f*** will be some type of reality shift (I can't believe I forgot the Infinity Gauntlet that's laying around), so really, they could make Tony a teenage again and it wouldn't surprise me..

Seangreyson said...

Oh come on, Front Line is only the fastest growing paper in New York, and at the time of the Civil War was desperately looking for a way to bust out of the pack with a major exclusive. Why would they ever publish such a non-story as "The Director of Shield under his own authority initiates a conflict with a major foriegn power."

It's a non-starter.

SallyP said...

A bonk to Tony Stark!

Oops...getting a little ahead of myself there. An apt comparison, though.

Matthew said...

Vader would have to be someone that Stark created ... say an Initiative member? Ooh, KIA is Vader! That leaves, say, Spidey as Luke?

Matthew said...

*Gasp* No, SPEEDBALL is Vader!

Seangreyson said...

If I was picking seriously I'd go with Ms. Marvel as Vader. He raised her up from an afterthought avenger to become the leader of the Mighty Avengers, making her his primary lieutenent in the process.

So if we spin off of that (trying to maintain the relationships from the movies). Ms Marvel would then be the "parent" to our Luke, so out of current story I'd say it would be someone from Lightning Storm.

I would go with Arana. If she went against Stark (for good reasons) I think Carol would be torn but would eventually side with her young protege over Tony after a tough inner struggle.

You can tell it's a slow day at work. I just put way too much thought into this.

CalvinPitt said...

jason: Huh, I'd forgotten the Illuminatti split the Infinity Gems among themselves, so that is out there as a solution, isn't it? Of course, there's the question of whether that was the real Black Bolt or the fake one, and if it was the fake, it raises the question of which Gem he had, and how much damage it could do (and where it is, for that matter).

seangreyson: Maybe they could have made up something about Alex Rodriguez being involved in it. If Marvel New Yorkers are like our New Yorkers, that would have sold some papers.

"A-Rod and Tony Stark plot war against Atlantis in hotel room with strippers!"

sallyp: Oh, we'll get to that, don't worry.

matthew: Speedball as Vader? I would love that, I really would. I'd hope Justice, as the New Warrior most on board with the Initiative thing could play a role in there.

seangreyson: Ms. Marvel? That's definitely workable. I know Carol had at least told Captain America she was trying hard to prove herself as A-list, so she could easily have told Tony the same. Then he could play off that, make her leader of the main Registered super-team to play to that desire, and keep her close, like Palpatine promising Anakin help in protecting Padme.

And Arana definitely looks up to Carol, which makes Carol kind of uncomfortable, especially when she does things that are within the law, but not all that heroic. Yeah, let's hear it for slow work days, people!