Thursday, August 14, 2008

Just Help Me Try And Figure This Out

This isn't actually related to the rest of the post, but for the people who read the Punisher, did you notice the advertisement for the new Runaways series? The Punisher seems like kind of an odd book to put that in, as I wouldn't think the two titles' audiences would overlap very much.

OK, main issue today. The Fourth Worlders in Final Crisis. So, all the New Gods died at some point prior to the start of Final Crisis, though not necessarily in the manner it was depicted in Countdown or Death of the New Gods, correct? I mean, we know Orion killed Darkseid (what with the prophecy and all), and Orion got killed by the bullet traveling backwards in time*, but other than that, do we know what killed the others? It's not really vital to the post, I was just wondering.

Anyway, New Gods die, but don't stay dead, instead possessing the bodies of various mortals, until they burn out*. The possessing is a consequence of their deaht, and loss of previous bodies, right? I can't figure Darkseid putting up with the hassle of bodies that keep decaying on him if he didn't have to**.

So here's what I'm trying to figure out. Shilo Norman, is it a case of Shilo Norman's body, but Scott Free's*** spirit possessing it, or is it Shilo Norman, the guy who was trained in the arts of escape by Scott Free, and has inherited/taken up the mantle of Mister Miracle in Scott's absence/retirement/death the mortal man, on his own?

* Which is kind of a cool idea, actually, except time travel tends to make my head hurt. It also housed the virus that transformed Wonder Woman into Super-Person with Tusks, correct?

** Which raises the question of why he hasn't tried to sucker Superman in close to try and possess the way he did Turpin. Maybe that's coming later. He could always try a robot body, that woudl probably be more resilient. Just don't use Red Tornado, that guy falls apart like he was made of toothpicks and spit.

*** Scott Free is a really cool name, even if you aren't a master escape artist.

4 comments:

Jason said...

I think the why's of the deaths of the New gods aren't that important to the story (thus why Morrison has completely ignored Countdown and Death of the New Gods). I have to dig out my issues of Seven Soldiers: Mr. Miracle since that whole story deals with this (it's actually placed right before Final Crisis begins).

SallyP said...

What, you're asking for an explanation of this? I've read ALL of these books, and quite frankly, I can't begin to tell you what's going on. I'm trying to ignore both Countdown and Death of the New Gods, because not only did they contradict each other, Grant Morrison is ignoring BOTH of them.

Seangreyson said...

I would assume the possession thing needs a living body to do it. Spirits usually have a hard time possessing robots (except when they don't of course, comics are fun that way).

On an unrelated note, if you haven't already check out the "Lone Wolf and Chris" extra in the back of Genext. It's hysterical (the book itself is a little confusing at times). :)

CalvinPitt said...

jason: Well, I figure with Morrison you never know. The killer of the rest of the New Gods could be Anthro, or Kamandi, or someone.

Eh, it was probably just Darksied, as part of his elaborate plan.

sallyp: From what I've read online, ignoring Countdown and Death of the New Gods might be a sound decision, regardless of the reason.

seangreyson: I think the robot thing is explained as some spirits are better at possessing than others.

I'll have to see if there's any Genext around next time I'm in the store.